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May 30, 2005

The Mormon President

This could get interesting in another year or two.

I seem to remember the NRO crew discussing this a while back at the Corner. The general consensus seemed to be that Romney's Mormonism wouldn't be much of a problem for the grassroots, which is proof that some folks at National Review know very little about evangelicals and Mormons.

Posted by Matt at May 30, 2005 12:39 AM

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I actually agree with the NRO folks in spite of my big problems with Mormonism. I briefly posted about this last night.

To me, it's all academic in any case because I find it hard to take Mitt Romney's presidential ambitions seriously.

Posted by: Mark at May 30, 2005 07:47 AM

A really interesting problem, especially in light of all of the clamoring about 'the persecution' of persons of faith. Even more so as the so called 'religious right' has to work out which parts of being the 'religious right' has actually held them together in the first place.

It is always pleasant to see folks talk about jews, as if in some majikal way they should be allowed an 'exemption' when the question is about 'true faith' and all. But as we know, the question of the 'roman catholic' portion of a political candidate has always been a great place to play various NeoCon and/or NeoEvangelical hate cards. It was so nice of the Hugh Hewlett to avoid the 'egg on the face' moment of dealing with the Kerry Campaign and that question of whether or not bishops should be allowed to excommunicate presidents.

Hum... what if there were some sort of seperation between church and state as a part of the process here...

Posted by: drieux just drieux at May 30, 2005 02:02 PM

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Posted by: Rick at May 30, 2005 07:55 PM

Romney isn't going to push LDS doctrine, any more than JFK promoted Catholicism. Mormons believe in freedom of religion and that the Constitution is divinely inspired, including the part about no establishment of religion.

Jesus said, in Matthew 7, "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?" Think about Jim Jones, Marshall Applewhite and David Koresh. I think those are what Jesus had in mind, not the LDS Church.

Remember that one of the grounds for murdering the early martyrs in the Roman Empire was that they were a "cult." If Mormonism was a cult, it would have died out when Joseph Smith was murdered or when Brigham Young died. The LDS church has grown from 6 members in 1830 to over 12 million members today and is in every nation that will allow it to exist. .

We would all do well to set aside theological differences and focus on what we have in common, not what divides us. If George W. Bush can grant the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Gordon B. Hinckley, the current leader of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, why do his fellow Christians keep insisting that LDS people shouldn't be treated like anybody else?

One thing I know, all Christians would be better off if he were president than they would under any Democrat I can think of.

Posted by: AST at June 2, 2005 04:36 PM

If you have not studied the Mormon Church and it's history, you have no idea how politically motivated this group is. It is incredibly rich and uses it's money to quietly gain powerful footholds in the most influential industries--the media, publishing, book distribution networks and more. Their goal is to achieve political power in this country and others.
Do not underestimate the control this church has over its members.

Posted by: margaret mana at June 21, 2005 01:01 PM

"Their goal is to achieve political power in this country and others."

Yeah, and I hear they use all that political power to advocate marriage and family values and christlike living . . .

Pretty scary stuff!!

Posted by: Rob Johnson at April 7, 2006 03:29 AM

Here is what I know about the Mormon Church.

It cares only about uniformity of thought by its congregations. And to that end it will continue trough the years gaining numbers of dim witted folk... all in the name of LOVE. Yet the church shows no leadership in taking care of the one thing they hold most dear; the land. All sorts of land. Look into it. They own and continue to build an impressive real property portfolio.

To build the new LDS Convention Center a.k.a Meeting hall not a single environmental impact statement was done on the quarry at which they operated. Which by the way was located in the Salt Lake City water shed area a few hundred feet away from the stream. They like money and power and turn a blind eye to real issues like the destruction of the environment. Look into how many environmental stewardship initiatives that have promoted. NOT A SINGLE ONE. They don't even take it upon themselves to help or fund recycling efforts in Salt Lake City / Provo / Ogden ... oh wait not a single place in Utah or any other place that they operate in do they encourage of fund such programs. Oh wait just a minute maybe they don’t have enough money or clout with local legislators. Shameful!

Posted by: TheQuaker at June 27, 2006 01:50 AM

I, as an excommunicated member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, feel it my duty to state that, even though there are weaknesses in the local administration of the Church, it is not a money- or power-hungry organization. I have my differences with certain local officers of the Church; I know, however; that on the grand scale, the Church is well organized and treats women (and men) with respect. All organizations have their weaknesses; those of the "Mormon" Church however are no more, and I dare say less, abusive than any other organization on earth I know of.

Posted by: Eugene C. Rasband at September 3, 2006 08:08 PM

In New Zealand the Mormons are now the fifth largest Church and growing. I am an evangelical Christain living in NZ, and I am very concerned about the cancerous growth of this American cult in Aotearoa New Zealand. Could not Romney be the anti-Christ as prophesied in Revelations? Beware folks, the devil can come to you in sheeps clothing.

Rob Brown

Posted by: Rob Brown at March 13, 2007 05:07 PM